Books with Betsy

Books with Betsy is a podcast that celebrates the reading life of all readers. Each week, Betsy interviews a different person about their reading life. Listen for book recommendations, reading tips, and to join in the joy that reading brings. And remember, anyone who reads is a reader.

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Episodes

Monday Aug 05, 2024

On this episode, Tanima Kazi, a writer (get her novel here!) who loves language, shares her love of romance novels, favorite parts of her favorite books, and how her day job helps her build ideas for her own writing. She describes how books speak to her and even shares excerpts from her favorite books. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange 
The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church by Sarah McCammon 
Sociopath: A Memoir by Patric Gagne 
 
Books Highlighted by Tanima: 
Circe by Madeline Miller 
Eat, Pray, Love by Elizabeth Gilbert
How to Order the Universe by María José Ferrada, trans. Elizabeth Bryer
Siddartha by Herman Hesse  
The Death of Mrs. Westaway by Ruth Ware 
Milk and Honey by Rupi Kaur
The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron
How to Escape an Arranged Marriage in High Heels by Tanima Kazi 
Elinor Oliphant is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman
Addicted by Zane 
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert 
On the Road by Jack Kerouac
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Babysitters Club by Anne M. Martin 
Are You There God? It’s me, Margaret by Judy Blume 
Confessions of a Shopaholic by Sophie Kinsella 
Wedding Night by Sophie Kinsella 
Rachel’s Holiday by Marian Keyes 
Watermelon by Marian Keyes 
This Charming Man by Marian Keyes 
London Seance Society by Sarah Penner 
Jezebel by Megan Barnard 
Becoming by Michelle Obama 
Know My Name by Chanel Miller 
Vengeance by Zane

Monday Jul 29, 2024

On this episode, Mike Finucane, a campus minister at a high-school in St. Louis, and I discuss how books can help develop empathy. He also gives a great tip from his dad about how to tackle a large non-fiction text. We also confirm that collecting books shouldn’t be considered a bad habit if you love it. We talk about a lot of really intense books but I hope that our discussion will inspire readers to do a deep dive into some of the topics. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
 
Books Highlighted by Mike: 
Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke 
Stories of Your LIfe and Others by Ted Chiang 
Exhalation by Ted Chiang 
The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead
Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh
An American Summer: Love and Death in Chicago by Alex Kotlowitz 
Just Mercy by Brian Stevenson
The Shawl by Cynthia Ozick
Gilead by Marilynne Robinson 
The Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin 
Tattoos on the Heart by Gregory Boyle
City of Bohane by Kevin Barry 
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden World Around Us by Ed Yong
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky 
The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert A. Caro 
The Hebrew Bible: A Translation with Commentary by Robert Alter 
Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking by Susan Cain 
How Green Was My Valley by Richard Llewellyn 
Great Expectations by Charles Dickens 
God Knows by Joseph Heller 
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller 
Your Duck is My Duck: Stories by Deborah Eisenberg 
Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland by Patrick Radden Keefe 
Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty by Patrick Radden Keefe 
Rogues: True Stories of Grifters, Killers, Rebels and Crooks by Patrick Radden Keefe 
The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin 
There are No Children Here by Alex Kotlowitz 
The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald 
Crazy Rich Asians by Kevin Kwan 

Monday Jul 22, 2024

On this episode, Rachel Kilthorne, a self-processed nerd’s nerd, discusses her love of both fantasy novels and going deep on a subject in non-fiction. She names many series and discusses how she determines when to re-read or when to let go of a series. I also get to go on a soapbox rant about reading diversely, especially in genre fiction. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
Woodworm by Layla Martinez
We Used to Live Here by Marcus Kliewer 
 
Books Highlighted by Rachel: 
The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham Jones 
The Wayfarer Series by Becky Chambers 
The Sabriel Series by Garth Nix
Our Share of Night by Mariana Enriquez 
Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead by Olga Tokarczuk 
The Secret Life of Groceries: The Dark Miracle of the American Supermarket by Benjamin Lorr
Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World by Naomi Klein 
The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue by V.A. Schwab 
A Council of Dolls by Mona Susan Power
Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood 
His Majesty’s Dragon by Naomi Novik 
Babel by R.F. Kuang 
Saga by Brian K. Vaughn
American Wolf: A True Story of Survival and Obsession in the West by Nate Blakeslee 
The Dresden Files Series by Jim Butcher
The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu
The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism by Katherine Stewart
Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler 
Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer 
An Indigenous Peoples’ History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Wheel of Time Series by Robert Jordan 
The Essential Calvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson 
The Sandman by Neil Gaiman 
Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood by Marjane Satrapi 
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir 
Death Valley by Melissa Broder 
The Pisces by Melissa Broder 
The Dark Tower Series by Stephen King 
The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie 
A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin 
The City We Became by N.K. Jemisin 
The World We Make by N.K. Jemisin 
Chain-Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah 
Blackouts by Justin Torres 
The Rabbit Hutch by Tess Gunty 
Zorrie by Laird Hunt 
The End of Drum-Time by Hanna Pylväinen 
The Midnight Library by Matt Haig 
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss 
The Poppy War Trilogy by R.F. Kuang 
Yellowface by R.F. Kuang 
Erasure by Percival Everett 
The Cartographers by Peng Shepherd 
The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu
His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman 
Gathering Moss: A Natural and Cultural History of Mosses by Robin Wall Kimmerer 
The Serviceberry: Abundance and Reciprocity in the Natural World by Robin Wall Kimmerer

Monday Jul 15, 2024

On this episode, Rachel Rolland, a hobby-enthusiast, discusses her love for weird books, including two authors with a decently large backlist that I’ve never heard of. We discuss how a book about accounting can help investigate the way we see the world, how some books just shouldn’t be adapted to screen, and her love for the bookstores where she worked. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
No One Can Know by Kate Alice Marshall 
None of This is True by Lisa Jewell 
 
Books Highlighted by Rachel: 
Milkman by Anna Burns
Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut 
A Song of Ice & Fire by George R.R. Martin 
Animal Farm by George Orwell 
Watership Down by Richard Adams
The Book Thief by Markus Zusak 
Keeping the House by Ellen Baker 
13 ½ Lives of Captain Blue Bear by Walter Moers 
The City of Dreaming Books by Walter Moers 
Then We Came to the End by Joshua Ferris 
Less by Andrew Sean Greer
Les Miserables by Victor Hugo 
Double Entry: How the Merchants of Venice Created Modern Finance by Jane Gleeson-White
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen 
Caps for Sale by Esphyr Slobodkina 
The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte 
Hamlet by William Shakespeare 
Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen 
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen 
The Big Over Easy: A Nursery Crime by Jasper Fforde 
Shades of Grey: The Road to High Saffron by Jasper Fforde 
Jonathan Strange & MR Norrell by Susanna Clarke 
Piranesi by Susanna Clarke 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
Dune by Frank Herbert 
Grant by Ron Chernow 
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut 
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut 
Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut 
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller 
The Cartographers by Peng Shepherd 
Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris 
I Like You: Hospitality Under the Influence by Amy Sedaris

Monday Jul 08, 2024

On this episode, Monika and I discuss her love of fantasy, she mentions so many series, some longer than others, and we share the joy of staff picks in an indie bookstore. We also talk about the magic of airplane reading and how amazing Libby can be. If you are interested in the Reddit thread Monika mentions, you can find that here. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
Exhibit by R.O. Kwan 
The Return of Ellie Black by Emiko Jean 
Bear by Julia Phillips 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
 
Books Highlighted by Monika: 
The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon 
The Mistborn Series by Brandon Sanderson 
The City & The City by China Miéville 
To Shape a Dragon’s Breath by Moniquill Blackgoose 
The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah 
Daughter of the Moon Goddess by Sue Lynn Tan 
Persuasion by Jane Austin 
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir 
Legends and Lattes by Travis Baldree 
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley 
1984 by George Orwell 
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup by John Carreyrou 
Blood, Sweat, and Pixels: The Triumphant, Turbulent Stories Behind How Video Games are Made by Jason Schreier 
Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder 
Twilight by Stephanie Meyer
The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins 
The Divergent Series by Veronica Roth 
The Maze Runner Series by James Dashner 
The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkein 
The Witcher Series by Andrzej Sapkowski 
The Stormlight Archive Series by Brandon Sanderson 
Becoming by Michelle Obama 
Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance by Barack Obama 
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson 
A Day of Fallen Night by Samantha Shannon 
Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros 
Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus 
Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin 
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin 
Too Like the Lightning: Book One of Terra Ignota by Ada Palmer 

Monday Jul 01, 2024

In this episode, Anna Deem, a high school English teacher in Chicago, and I discuss how seasons of life change our reading habits, her love of poetry, and our definitive shared overrated book. We also discuss the influence of the Beat generation on her writing and end with some excellent recommendations for books she enjoys with her 4-year-old daughter. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
Dune by Frank Herbert 
The Nix by Nathan Hill 
Incidents Around the House by Josh Malerman
Sisters of the Lost Nation by Nick Medina
 
Books Highlighted by Anna: 
The Stranger by Albert Camus
Native Son by Richard Wright 
The Crown Ain’t Worth Much by Hanif Abdurraqib 
Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs, Jr. 
Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner 
Just Kids: An Autobiography by Patti Smith 
Anthropology of an American Girl by Hilary Thayer Hamann 
Howl by Alan Ginsberg 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
Fast Times and Ridgemont High by Cameron Crowe (out of print) 
The Nineties: A Book by Chuck Klosterman 
Junky by William S. Burroughs 
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
Promises of Gold by José Olivarez 
The Breakbeat Poets: New American Poetry in the Age of Hip-Hop edited by Kevin Coval, Quraysh Ali Lansana, and Nate Marshall 
Selected Poems of Anne Sexton by Anne Sexton 
The Collected Poems by Sylvia Plath 
Very Good Hats by Emma Straub and Blanca Gómez 
Dress-Up Day by Blanca Gómez 
Taylor Swift: A Little Golden Book Biography by Wendy Loggia and Elisa Chavarri

Monday Jun 24, 2024

On this episode, Mo Smith, the person I know who reads the most, and we discuss her experiences as a very early reader in school, a book habit that stuns me a little, and she gets to gush about her amazing backyard pool at her home in Las Vegas. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
Dune by Frank Herbert 
The Only One Left by Riley Sager 
 
Books Highlighted by Mo: 
Circle of Friends by Maeve Binchy 
Behind Her Eyes by Sarah Pinborough 
On the Clock: What Low-Wage Word Did to Me and How it Drives America Insane by Emily Guendelsberger 
Arsenic and Adobo (Tita Rosie’s Kitchen Mystery #1) by Mia P. Manansala 
Not My Father’s Son: A Memoir by Alan Cumming
A Life in Parts by Bryan Cranston 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Black Echo (Harry Bosch Series #1) by Michael Connelly 
Just for the Summer by Abby Jimenez 
Verity by Colleen Hoover 
The Great Alone by Kristin Hannah 
The Four Winds by Kristin Hannah 
Beartown by Fredrik Backman 
A Man Called Ove by Fredrik Backman 

Monday Jun 17, 2024

On this episode, Sarah Sabet and I discuss Scandi-Crime, how her book club fell in love with Lynn Painter, and we have an extended conversation about a fantastic organization that, unfortunately, neither of us have had a chance to connect with: @readandrunchicago on Instagram!
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
Iron Flame by Rebecca Yarros 
The Resort by Sarah Ochs
Annie Bot by Sierra Greer 
Dune by Frank Herbert 
The Husbands by Holly Gramazio 
 
Books Highlighted by Sarah: 
The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett
The China Garden by Liz Berry 
The Other Black Girl by Zakiya Dalila Harris 
The Brilliant Life of Eudora Honeysett by Annie Lyons
The Devil in the White City by Erik Larson 
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
The Girl who Played With Fire by Stieg Larsson
And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie Better Than the Movies by Lynn Painter
Devil’s Trill: A Daniel Jacobus Mystery by Gerald Elias 
The Art of Gathering: How we Meet and Why it Matters by Priya Parker 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Charm Offensive by Alison Cochrun 
I’m Traveling Alone by Samuel Bjork 
The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis 
Dinosaurs Before Dark by Mary Pope Osborne 
Becoming by Michelle Obama 
Atonement by Ian McEwan 
Faust by J.W. Von Goethe 
Fellow Travelers by Thomas Mallon 
The Chestnut Man by Soren Sveistrup 
Last Summer on State Street by Toya Wolfe 
Gaybash by David Jay Collins

Monday Jun 10, 2024

On this episode, Francesca Musumeci and I discuss the wealth of indie bookstores we have in Chicago, how school can make reading less fun, and why it’s important to read what you like. She also tells some pretty great stories about her years working at Half-Price Books, including a hilarious mystery request from a customer that she manages to solve. 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
His Name is George Floyd by Robert Samuels and Toluse Olorunnipa
Iron Flame by Rebecca Yarros 
Victim by Andrew Boryga
Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel 
 
Books Highlighted by Francesca: 
Chain Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
World War Z by Max Brooks
The Glass Castle by Jeanette Walls
Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin 
The Great Believers by Rebecca Makkai
Verity by Colleen Hoover
The Push by Ashley Audrain 
Columbine by Dave Cullen
Long Live the Tribe of Fatherless Girls by T Kira Madden 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
The Once and Future King by T.H. White 
The Iliad by Homer
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee 
The Mothers by Brit Bennett 
The Vanishing Half by Brit Bennett
Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid 
The Final Girl Support Group by Grady Hendrix 
How to Sell a Haunted House by Grady Hendrix 
Marlena by Julie Buntin 
The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald 
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger 
The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway 
The Woman in Me by Britney Spears
High on Arrival by MacKenzie Phillips 
The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by Taylor Jenkins Reid
Story of the Eye by Georges Bataille 
Nightbitch by Rachel Yoder 
The School for Good Mothers by Jessamine Chan 
The Body of Evidence Series by Christopher Golden 
The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins 
Queen Bees and Wannabes by Rosalind Wiseman 
The Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold 
Dead Until Dark by Charlaine Harris
A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway

Monday Jun 03, 2024

On this episode, Erin Jacobo and I discuss a lot of really juicy thrillers, her love of a heart wrenching story, and why romance just doesn’t work for us. She also tells some great stories about her family and their connection with reading, and we learn how much she has influenced my reading life! 
 
Books mentioned in this episode: 
 
What Betsy’s reading: 
His Name is George Floyd by Robert Samuels and Toluse Olorunnipa
Iron Flame by Rebecca Yarros 
Nightwatching by Tracy Sierra 
 
Books Highlighted by Erin: 
The Cartographers by Peng Shepherd 
The House in the Cerulean Sea by T.J. Klune
Lock Every Door by Riley Sager
Kill for Me, Kill for You by Steve Cavanaugh 
We Were Never Here by Andrea Bartz 
Yellowface by R.F. Kuang 
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir 
One Italian Summer by Rebecca Searle 
Winter Street by Elin Hildebrand 
The Other Black Girl by Zakiya Dalila Harris 
The In-Between: Unforgettable Encounters During Life’s Final Moments by Hadley Vlahos 
Dark Matter by Blake Crouch 
 
Other Books Mentioned in the Episode:
All books available on my Bookshop.org episode page.  
Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder 
Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants by Ann Brashares 
Walk Two Moons by Sharon Creech 
The Pact by Jodi Picoult 
My Sister’s Keeper by Jodi Picoult 
In a Dark, Dark Wood by Ruth Ware 
Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt 
Final Girls by Riley Sager 
Erasure by Percival Everett 
In Five Years by Rebecca Searle 
28 Summers by Elin Hildebrand 
The Lost Apothecary by Sarah Penner

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